Real Money Trade (RMT) that Pleases Everyone?
From the post I made just a few days ago, Epics for the Casual Gamer, it seems clear to me that Blizzards World of Warcraft could do with a few extra options for those of us at the end game. The really good gear seems to be reserved not for those hardcore gamers who are willing to work for it, but for a subset of these gamers who have large chunks of free time. Currently then, those of us at 60 who still play the game regularly but in only small blocks, or at odd times, are being left out in the cold. Just what are we paying $15 a month for?
My minds been racing over the last few days, and I finally woke up at 5am this morning with an idea that I had to get down on paper (or disc as the case may be). I figured there must be an RMT model that could work as part of a MMORPG.
Now, we all know that MMORPGs and RMT work together, if they didn’t World of Warcraft wouldn’t be so popular, Project Entropia wouldn’t work at all (related post: Your Project Entropia Withdrawl Limit is...) and Sony wouldn’t have relented on their strict ‘no RMT’ policy to bring out Station Exchange in 2005.
Essentially the whole thing centers around a moral argument between players. There are those who feel that RMT in MMORPGs is:
a) cheating and
b) detracts from the fantasy of the game.
These are not unfair points, however they does miss the point that we don’t all have large enough chunks of time to invest in high level dungeon runs, but we are willing to work hard for better gear. It also misses the point that any number of people you play with in World of Warcraft (or many other games) could have had their characters power levelled, rankings levelled, instance runs completed by a service provider or just be jacked full of bought cash.
And unless they told you, you would never know.
Lets put aside the fact that you can earn gear by doing battlegrounds in World of Warcraft. Why? Because this gear is predominately geared up to PvP combat. I want to address the issue of getting PvE gear (as I’m not a big PvPer).
As I mentioned in my previous post it seems to me developers could introduce more quests like that for getting the Darkmoon Faire Amulet, and introduce complete articles as faction rewards rather than patterns for them. But that’s another posting, lets look at how I think RMT could be squeezed into World of Warcraft without pissing off people too much and unbalancing the game.
RMT in WoW
I think a good starting point would be to take a tip from Sony and start up RMT enabled servers. Within this environment at least you would know what you were getting and could stay away if you chose to. Of course normal trading would still be possible in this realm, but RMT would also be an option.
Auctioning for Real Cash
I think you could also introduce RMT as an option in normal realms. As an extra option when putting up items on the auction house why not add a ‘Make Purchase’ button available which would allow players to buy the item with real cash (the price of which would be a reflection of the Gold price, converetd into real dollars at present exchange rates). You could, and probably should, restrict this action to higher level items which have reached a certain threshold in terms of their in-game price. For those with pots of gold buying power remains unaffected, just buy it with your gold. For those with pots of cash but no gold this gives you the chance to buy something nice!
Let’s not forget those of you with lots of free time and items to auction would also be able to make real money off us lowly time short people. Surely no-one would object to that?
Buying High End - End Game Gear
Now let’s look at epics and other gear that you should really only be able to get from instances like Molten Core, Blackwing Lair and Zul Gurub. In my model these items would be purchasable with real cash from certain vendors, the prices reflecting the amount of gold similar items are fetching on the auction house. To make certain that this opportunity was not just taken advantage of, detracting from the pull of high level instance runs (I doubt this would be the case given the split among players on RMT), there should be a penalty for making this purchase. One which comes to mind would be a time penalty.
If you had gone into Molten Core looking for Bloodfang Pants (or something) then you would have had to invest quite a bit of time to get this. If you buy the gear then your account should get a time penalty on it of say 8 hours in which you can not play. That won’t match the amount of time you might otherwise have to put in to get Bloodfang Pants, but let’s not forget by buying this item you’re already effectively monetarily fined.
You could also slap a durability fine on bought gear as this would be heavily damaged during a raid.
RMT Class of Gear
Another possibility would be to introduce RMT gear, World of Warcraft already has PvP and PvE gear. Rather than being able to buy the best gear in the game you would be able to buy something comparable, but with some sort of limitation.
Conclusion
Personally I think that if people are willing to pay their real hard earned cash for better items then they should be allowed to do so. One way or another we all pay for the virtual assets we own (ownership of virtual assests is a whole other kettle of fish!), whether you pay in virtual cash, real cash or your time.
Your thoughts?
I’m always interested to hear what other people think on these kinds of matters (and my rambling posts). How do you see things developing, is there a middle ground? Is RMT here to stay? Why do we feeel the need to twink our virtual alter egos?
My minds been racing over the last few days, and I finally woke up at 5am this morning with an idea that I had to get down on paper (or disc as the case may be). I figured there must be an RMT model that could work as part of a MMORPG.
Now, we all know that MMORPGs and RMT work together, if they didn’t World of Warcraft wouldn’t be so popular, Project Entropia wouldn’t work at all (related post: Your Project Entropia Withdrawl Limit is...) and Sony wouldn’t have relented on their strict ‘no RMT’ policy to bring out Station Exchange in 2005.
Essentially the whole thing centers around a moral argument between players. There are those who feel that RMT in MMORPGs is:
a) cheating and
b) detracts from the fantasy of the game.
These are not unfair points, however they does miss the point that we don’t all have large enough chunks of time to invest in high level dungeon runs, but we are willing to work hard for better gear. It also misses the point that any number of people you play with in World of Warcraft (or many other games) could have had their characters power levelled, rankings levelled, instance runs completed by a service provider or just be jacked full of bought cash.
And unless they told you, you would never know.
Lets put aside the fact that you can earn gear by doing battlegrounds in World of Warcraft. Why? Because this gear is predominately geared up to PvP combat. I want to address the issue of getting PvE gear (as I’m not a big PvPer).
As I mentioned in my previous post it seems to me developers could introduce more quests like that for getting the Darkmoon Faire Amulet, and introduce complete articles as faction rewards rather than patterns for them. But that’s another posting, lets look at how I think RMT could be squeezed into World of Warcraft without pissing off people too much and unbalancing the game.
RMT in WoW
I think a good starting point would be to take a tip from Sony and start up RMT enabled servers. Within this environment at least you would know what you were getting and could stay away if you chose to. Of course normal trading would still be possible in this realm, but RMT would also be an option.
Auctioning for Real Cash
I think you could also introduce RMT as an option in normal realms. As an extra option when putting up items on the auction house why not add a ‘Make Purchase’ button available which would allow players to buy the item with real cash (the price of which would be a reflection of the Gold price, converetd into real dollars at present exchange rates). You could, and probably should, restrict this action to higher level items which have reached a certain threshold in terms of their in-game price. For those with pots of gold buying power remains unaffected, just buy it with your gold. For those with pots of cash but no gold this gives you the chance to buy something nice!
Let’s not forget those of you with lots of free time and items to auction would also be able to make real money off us lowly time short people. Surely no-one would object to that?
Buying High End - End Game Gear
Now let’s look at epics and other gear that you should really only be able to get from instances like Molten Core, Blackwing Lair and Zul Gurub. In my model these items would be purchasable with real cash from certain vendors, the prices reflecting the amount of gold similar items are fetching on the auction house. To make certain that this opportunity was not just taken advantage of, detracting from the pull of high level instance runs (I doubt this would be the case given the split among players on RMT), there should be a penalty for making this purchase. One which comes to mind would be a time penalty.
If you had gone into Molten Core looking for Bloodfang Pants (or something) then you would have had to invest quite a bit of time to get this. If you buy the gear then your account should get a time penalty on it of say 8 hours in which you can not play. That won’t match the amount of time you might otherwise have to put in to get Bloodfang Pants, but let’s not forget by buying this item you’re already effectively monetarily fined.
You could also slap a durability fine on bought gear as this would be heavily damaged during a raid.
RMT Class of Gear
Another possibility would be to introduce RMT gear, World of Warcraft already has PvP and PvE gear. Rather than being able to buy the best gear in the game you would be able to buy something comparable, but with some sort of limitation.
Conclusion
Personally I think that if people are willing to pay their real hard earned cash for better items then they should be allowed to do so. One way or another we all pay for the virtual assets we own (ownership of virtual assests is a whole other kettle of fish!), whether you pay in virtual cash, real cash or your time.
Your thoughts?
I’m always interested to hear what other people think on these kinds of matters (and my rambling posts). How do you see things developing, is there a middle ground? Is RMT here to stay? Why do we feeel the need to twink our virtual alter egos?
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The problem with the faction epics, and gear in general, is that (as far as I could see) you only get the pattern for the weapons/armour.
Which would be fine, but taking the example of some of the Thorium Brotherhood rewards, the materials for these are found only in the Molten Core. Which defeats the object of getting the factions rewards because you can't get into the instances.
Of course, as I said before, these materials might be available on the AH?
There are plenty of factions that will give you epics if you grind them. Really nice ones in fact, such as the Highland stuff from Arathi Basin.
RMT would not work, because WoW is simply designed around a "work for it" type thing. Too many parts of the game are all centered around eventually obtaining an epic, and RMT would not really factor in.
There are plenty of factions that will give you epics if you grind them. Really nice ones in fact, such as the Highland stuff from Arathi Basin.
RMT would not work, because WoW is simply designed around a "work for it" type thing. Too many parts of the game are all centered around eventually obtaining an epic, and RMT would not really factor in.
I am going to have to agree there needs to be something done regarding the causual 60 level player. I have more and more friends dropping out because they are sick of making alts (i.e. they may work on leveling up anytime but a 3 hour instance run is not feesible based on rl demands). Do I think your suggestions could work? Yes. Do I think Blizz will develop a package (realm) to sustain the casual gamer? No. Not until there is some type of mass exodus.
Let me start by saying that I'm a reformed gold buyer. I bought gold a few months after WoW first came out. A month later, I had given up on the game. Why? Buying gold and skipping all the needed farming gave me access to anything I wanted.
The main problem with RMT is that it devalues the game. If you have to crawl through dungeon X to get item Y, or you can buy Y for a set amount of gold, many people would choose to buy. By buying, you essentially take all the work in getting it. Morality aside, this has a significant impact on your own enjoyment, whether you admit it or not.
If you can buy an item, you don't value it as much as something you've worked hard for.
Now that I've said this, look at it from Blizzard's perspective. They know that if they make the game significantly easier than it already is (and selling items for cash WOULD do this), players would start to leave out of boredom. They'd gouge the players before they walked out the door, but in the end, they'd be facing a shrinking player base and underutilized hardware.
Unless Blizzard is convinced that they can have their cake (money from in-game sales) and eat it too (low turnover on accounts), they will stay away from RMT.
OK, so you have some place for the casual, well-off gamer; what about us casual, broke gamers?
Your first post spoke much truer to me. Is it so ridiculous that there be more endgame content for casuals?
WoW is not about fun, its about accomplishing
First of all- why would you need high end epics if you cannot play in the places they are needed?
For casual killing word mob you really do not need anything more then ordinary greens/blues... Secondary, you seam to miss a point here... even the best gear is not going to compensate for lack of skill.
There is more to that game then high end dungeons- can you honestly say you have completed every single avaliable quest out there?
First of all, I am a bit beyond a casual player, however I do not raid.
I have a few epic items that are buyable or craftable, but no BoP epics from dungeons.
With that said, we all pay $15 to play this game. It is a fair price for the amount of time we sink into it. But isn’t the point of WoW to escape reality? You get away from the fact that maybe you don’t have a lot of money and nice things. Maybe you drive a 15 year old rusted car. Perhaps you put tape on a cracked window instead of replacing it.
WoW is a fantasy game. It takes place in a fantasy world where everyone has the same opportunity. I am not saying that I agree with Blizzards choice to limit epic tiered drops to 20+ man raids. I think that is wrong and that they should make harder 5 man content. But I do think that if you offer people with greater financial means (outside of the game) access to better equipment then you detract from the fantasy of the game for both them and the people who can not afford to do it.
Check this out. I was playing The Frozen Throne last night (doing the bonus campaign with Rexxar and Misha) and guess what kind of loot dropped for me? I got 3 epics and 2 artifacts (Killmaim rules). I have never played TFT before. I just got it yesterday. I HAVE been playing WoW since the beta, though. I've figured out that whoever worked for Blizzard and made their RTS games so fun, is no longer with them. They must have gagged him and buried him under the basement floor. Poor guy. He was on to something.
Anyway, to comment on your point: I buy gold. I'm not the least bit ashamed to admit it. Why? Because I only get to play for 2 or 3 hours per week and it gives me the edge that I need to get things accomplished in the short amount of time that I have. I think that you are on to something and I fully support the way that you are thinking. I would gladly pay my money to Blizzard in exchange for epics. Why would I want them if I only play 2 or 3 hours per week? Because that's my right as a player. We want purps and we shouldn't be penalized for having priorities other than WoW. Most of my time is spent working......making money so that I can buy gold..........what a mess. I know one thing is for certain. I love Blizzards games. I'll never stop playing them. I'm not getting as much enjoyment from WoW because Blizzard has stacked the odds in favor of people who have no lives. At least this isn't so with their RTS games.
Here's my solution:
Its obvious that RMT will never be 100% abolished and its obvious that it's inception into WoW would drive many players to quit.
Imagine this, EVERY realm was a Role-Playing realm because WoW is a RPG and that's the fantasy they are trying to portray. Not everyone wants to build a backstory about their character and have to talk in character all the time... but some people do. So they have a seperate realm.
Make more realm types. Like realms where RMT is allowed and regulated by Blizzard, then increase the penalties for people doing RMT outside of these realms. People who know they will not be able to play constantly can be transferred to or start fresh on a RMT Server. (one would obviousley need to see if there was an interest in RMT RP servers, but I think there would be what if you backstory was that you were rich?)
Anyways, I say divide and conquer.... You already have gold farming going on, why not make it legal but only in designated areas. Like drinking or smoking I guess.
Let me know what you all think because I think this is a legitmate good idea.
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